kiwi wrote: Hi Maol thats quite a bombshell ... what is the blank area directly on the opposite side of the ejection?... an artifact from the processing? .
cheers and welcome
That image is a composite of several. The blank area is the arm that supports the occulting disc that blocks the sun for some of the cameras.
For a video of the CME, go to http://sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov/cgi-bin ... ie_theater choose LASCO C3 and enter 20110307 and 20110308 for start and end dates. (copy and paste the number strings into the panes) You will see 4 large CME's in rapid succession in the two days time.
Maol
Re: Electric Earthquakes
Jarvamundo wrote: hmmm interesting.... Proton flux is what Pier Corbyn (WeatherAction) has been saying is the source of the current activity.
Piers [6:20-->] says "The massive Japan Earthquake and Tsunami were triggered by massive events on the Sun and there are more to come in the next two years"
• "Many of these Earthquake events, as well as weather events, will be very extreme.
• "Actual Earthquakes are very difficult to predict but major aftershocks will come after this one.
• "Just to be clear in case the usual fools and charlatans make claims the weather and earthquake events that have come and are coming are absolutely nothing to do with CO2 or so called man-made climate change in any way whatsoever and such talk diverts attention from where it is needed and holds back the advancement of science".
It is obviously coincident. I tried the same data sources for the NZ quake but the connection wasn't as obvious. Has anyone looked for others?
kiwi
Re: Electric Earthquakes
That image is a composite of several. The blank area is the arm that supports the occulting disc that blocks the sun for some of the cameras.
thanks ....
webolife
Re: Electric Earthquakes
This is getting off the thread, but I am intrigued by the distribution pattern of the CME in that short video clip. From the standpoint of the "electric sun", what is the explanation for: 1. The initial blast which occurred at a 90-deg angle to the subsequent bright CME. Is this a polar blast and the subsequent one more equatorial in orientation? If either or neither, explain the orientations of the two blasts. 2. The shape of the [two] blasts. I would expect one or both of them to be possibly more helical than the spherical bubble shape that appears in this graphic. Is this a fault of the two-dimensionality of the perspective, or am I misunderstanding something about the electric sun?
Maol
Re: Electric Earthquakes
webolife wrote: This is getting off the thread, but I am intrigued by the distribution pattern of the CME in that short video clip. From the standpoint of the "electric sun", what is the explanation for: 1. The initial blast which occurred at a 90-deg angle to the subsequent bright CME. Is this a polar blast and the subsequent one more equatorial in orientation? If either or neither, explain the orientations of the two blasts. 2. The shape of the [two] blasts. I would expect one or both of them to be possibly more helical than the spherical bubble shape that appears in this graphic. Is this a fault of the two-dimensionality of the perspective, or am I misunderstanding something about the electric sun?
Your thoughts are not off the thread at all. An indirect answer perhaps, but have you ever done steel fabrication using arc welding and grinders and such and so observed iron filings jump in the influence of the flux lines emanating around the welding leads as the welding arc sizzles? It's like playing with a magnet and a nail and iron filings on a piece of paper, but on steroids. Scale that up to the magnitude of the sun.
webolife
Re: Electric Earthquakes
I'm looking for but not seeing the type of flux lines I would expect... Can you show me some welder arcs for comparison?
Maol
Re: Electric Earthquakes
webolife wrote: I'm looking for but not seeing the type of flux lines I would expect... Can you show me some welder arcs for comparison?
I meant the patterns in the iron dust on the floor around the cables from the welder to the arc. Turn one in a loop and strike an arc and see what it does compared to a straight run of cable.
davesmith_au
Re: Electric Earthquakes
Whilst the earthquake/tsunami in Japan are likely to be the subject of lively discussion on our boards, please let us not overlook the human cost of such a tragedy. To all readers who have friends or family in the affected regions, I offer heartfelt condolences on behalf of The Thunderbolts Project. This was truly a tragic event.
Sincerely, Dave Smith. Forum Administrator.
D_Archer
Re: Electric Earthquakes
Hi entinee,
You could google "Ring of Fire" (ignore the Jonny Cash links) in relation to earthquakes; this would give you a region where they are likeley to occur, namely at plate boundaries (pacific region).
Prof. Shmuel Marco of Tel Aviv University ... and his colleagues have invented a new tool which he describes as a "fossil seismograph," to help geophysicists and other researchers understand patterns of seismic activity in the past. - Inspired by a strange "wave" phenomenon he studied in disturbed sediment in the Dead Sea region, Prof. Marco says the new tool ... is relevant to areas where earthquakes affect bodies of water, like the West Coast of the United States [or Japan etc]. [I imagine it may also apply along river beds to some extent, like the Mississippi next to me here.] It also can help engineers understand what's at risk when they plan new [construction, like] hydroelectric power plants. ... - "Current seismographical data on earthquakes only reaches back a century or so," says Prof. Marco. "Our new approach investigates wave patterns of heavy sediment that penetrates into the light sediments that lie directly on top of them. This helps us to understand the intensity of earthquakes in bygone eras — it's a yardstick for measuring the impact factor of earthquakes from the past." - [They] took a highly technical look at layers of mud at the Dead Sea. The layers were originally stratified in a very stable manner, but now heavier sediment appears to have been pulled up into the lighter sediment. - The researchers propose that the physics governing the sediment patterns is similar to a phenomenon found in clouds and sea waves but in the case of rocks it was the earthquake shaking (rather than wind) that triggered the formation of waves. The scientists call it the "Kelvin-Helmholtz Instability," which describes a theory of turbulence in fluids. [Two recent TPODs, http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2011/arch11/110310hexagon.htm and http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2011/arch11/110207cloudy.htm, point out that that theory of turbulence doesn't necessarily accurately apply to clouds etc.] The Tel Aviv University team applied this theory to analyze the deformation of sediment caused by past earthquakes. [Although earthquakes are produced electrically, movement of sediments above earthquakes may not involve appreciable electrical forces.] - Earthquakes cause deformation in rocks and sediment. Using the basic principles of friction, the researchers considered the geometry of the shapes they found in the Dead Sea sediment and combined it with a number of other parameters found in physical science to calculate how earthquakes from the past were distributed in scale, time and place. ... - Prof. Marco and his colleagues found that the deformation begins as moderate wave-like folds, evolves into complex recumbent folds, and finally exhibit instability and fragmentation. The deformation process advances depending on the earthquake size — the stronger the earthquake, the more intense the deformation. - The seismological record for fault lines like those near Jerusalem and Los Angeles simply isn't old enough to predict when the next quake might strike. "We've expanded the window of observation beyond 100 years, to create, if you will, a 'fossil seismograph,'" says Prof. Marco.
Doureios
Re: Electric Earthquakes
Hi all again,
Few pages back in this thread i've mentioned an ongoing research in the Technical University of Thrace here in Greece, about earthquakes and ion flux in the ionoshpere. Their results are most promising in earthquake prediction (for quakes >6).
In few words, data from the french DEMETER satelite show that 2-4 weeks before a quake the is an increase in electron flux in the ionoshpere above the quake area. Few days before the quake this flux starts to decrease and stops 1-2 hours before the event (it's like charging the region for few weeks, reaching a maximum few hours before the event and then having a breakdown with the earthquake)
Ground Moving * A colleague mentioned this video; in it see "breathing" cracks in a Tokyo park without any obvious earthquake activity at that moment. Liquefaction is mentioned. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2f2Nw3j2fE&feature=player_embedded. You can see areas of ground moving back and forth about two inches.
Dragoneye
Re: Electric Earthquakes
Lloyd, I've viewed that video a number of times. It is quite interesting.
I really think the key to understanding the motion of the ground is that the area seen in the video is man-made. It's an extension into Tokyo Bay built by the Japanese from many boulders and whatever they could scape together for dirt. A search on "Tokyo Bay construction" will reveal an expansion of the shoreline into the bay along with artificial islands and buildings on those islands and with numerous bridges connecting them
nick c
Re: Electric Earthquakes
Lloyd, Fascinating video! It would be interesting to learn if the pools of water that percolated up in the park were salt, brackish, or fresh water.
thats quite a bombshell ... what is the blank area directly on the opposite side of the ejection?... an artifact from the processing? .
