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This is a discussion of the possible usage of iPhones as magnetometers. The main document is here.
 
'13-11-03, 23:54
 
Lloyd
St. Louis area

I-Phone Magnetometer Experiment

In your TB forum thread on Volcanoes & CFDLs at http://thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=14669&p=89145#p89129, you said:

I have been discussing my EM theory of the Seneca Guns with one of the leading experts, and with one of his graduate students. When I presented my reasons for thinking that the "Guns" are electrostatic discharges, and we started talking about instrumentation that could pick up the EMPs to prove it, one of them suggested that we could create a huge array of magnetometers just using iPhones, which have built-in magnetometers. (That's how iPhones know which way is up — they're using GPS to determine the location, and then the Earth's magnetic field to determine the X/Y/Z orientation at that location.) So now we have a person running an iPhone app that will register the EMP (if present) the next time she hears one of the booms. The same app could be used to register electric currents associated with volcanoes, earthquakes, and tornadoes. Currently, funding for the study of EM in these phenomena is hard to get. But there are a lot of iPhones out there, and the general public might be able to collect an overwhelming volume of data proving the presence of electric currents in these phenomena, totally bypassing the funding gate-keepers.

That's interesting, but exactly what can i-Phones tell you about magnetic fields? How would an i-Phone user be able to read the data? If you had enough info spelled out, maybe they could be alerted worldwide when the times for earthquakes are most likely to occur. Didn't you say they occur mostly in the winter and at new or full moons?*11406

Back to Dating

You say you don't know where to start on the problem of dating major events. How about if we just start posting relevant data on a thread? If you'd like to have a new thread on that, I can start one, or you could. I invited Gordon to your Volcano thread discussion and I see he showed up, although I don't know if it was because I alerted him. But anyway maybe he'd like to discuss the dating issue with us, if you would. Some of the data I know about are:

1. the dinosaur bones C14 dates and similar facts about dinosaur bones and ancient observations of possible dinosaurs, human footprints near dinosaur footprints and human remains in a dinosaur stratum, invluding Lloyd Pye's info;

2. some of Walter Brown's info on uranium, mammoths, grand canyon erosion, etc;

3. material at sedimentology.fr;

4. the ancients' many records about Saturn being the original Sun.

'13-11-04, 11:56
 
Charles Chandler
Baltimore, MD
 
Lloyd said:
That's interesting, but exactly what can i-Phones tell you about magnetic fields? How would an i-Phone user be able to read the data? If you had enough info spelled out, maybe they could be alerted worldwide when the times for earthquakes are most likely to occur. Didn't you say they occur mostly in the winter and at new or full moons?
iPhones sense the ambient field in 3 axes, so the exact azimuth & elevation of the force vector can be determined. The sensitivity appears to be to the nearest microtesla. (The Earth's field ranges from 25 to 65 microteslas.) The iPhone uses the force vector to determine the orientation of the unit, so that it can keep the text right-side-up even as the unit is rotated from portrait to landscape orientation. But the iPhone also allows programmatic access to the data. Thus an iPhone app can write the data to memory. In the data, we'll find EMPs from nearby lightning strikes, or other sorts of electrostatic discharges, such as Seneca Guns, tornadoes, volcanoes, and earthquake tremors. This will support theoretical advances. And if we can stream the data to a server in real time, we can send back warnings of impending distasters.
'13-11-04, 23:56
 
Lloyd
St. Louis area

Thanks for starting the Chronology thread. I hope you or someone else knowledgeable will join in discussing the data etc.

I-Phone Data Collection

Charles, have you started pursuing the iPhone idea? It looks like it would need at least 5 things:

1. A place online to post data.

2. Detailed instructions on a) how to use the iPhone for collecting data; and b) how iPhone users can post the data to the place online.

3. Project Info: a good explanation of the project and the rationale.

4. Reasonably popular places online to post the project info. There should probably be a list of best places made up.

5. Someone to collect and handle the posted data and explain the findings.

If those are sufficient, shall you or we or someone work on those? Will the expert and grad student likely be willing to help with any of those 5 things?

If I have time, I could probably work on steps 3 & 4. I mean I could help edit and compose the project info document. I might be able to do the whole thing, actually, if it doesn't have to be real fancy. And I could help post it to places online, but the posting would have to wait till 1 and 2 are finished.

'13-11-05, 20:25
 
Charles Chandler
Baltimore, MD
 
 
I started a project page for this (linked in the thread intro). I got some code from one developer, and I've been looking through it. I don't know anything about iPhone, but I'm familiar with Xcode, so at least I can read it. Still, it looks like it would be a lot easier to just get a proficient Xcode developer to write the app, rather than learning the iPhone just to do one app. So I'll work on the specs, and keep contacting developers until I've either exhausted the list or found one willing to take it on.
 
Then, of course, comes the scientific analysis of the data, i.e., the correlation of the EM data with the physical processes responsible for them.


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