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- General Questions & Answers
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  General Questions & Answers
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'14-07-20, 08:59
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Baltimore, MD, USA
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- What is your current understanding of Venus? It is much different from the rest of planets?*8399
- Venus is a relatively new observation in the skies during ancient times, where did it come from?*8256
- Is the anomalous nature of venus a result of just its recent creation in our solar system and that its apparent physical contradictions will quickly be "dealt with" by solar physics laws.*10741
- If as the ancients say it was "born" out of Jupiter can this be reconciled in any way with reality, say its the core of Jupiter? the red spot, or the thunderbolts depicted from its plasma "fights" with earth and mars. Could gas giants expel matter? Even the bible reports the effects of a cosmic body around the exodus and a repeating 52 year orbit for a while after.*10951
- Why would the ancients lie/fantasize about phenomena if they made it part of their religion, life and calendars?*10000
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'14-07-20, 09:02
Charles Chandler
Baltimore, MD
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What is your current understanding of Venus? It is much different from the rest of planets?
Venus is very different from the other planets. It is the only planet that rotates clockwise (looking down from the North Star), and its rotation is slowing down, suggesting that some force is acting on it, which will eventually get it to rotate the same way as all of the other planets.
Another difference is that it has the thickest atmosphere of all of the rocky planets.
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'14-07-20, 09:07
Charles Chandler
Baltimore, MD
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Venus is a relatively new observation in the skies during ancient times, where did it come from?
Since Venus is visible to the unaided eye, I thought that people knew about it since before recorded history, and the lore about it dates back to the beginning of verbal communication.
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'14-07-20, 09:10
Charles Chandler
Baltimore, MD
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Is the anomalous nature of venus a result of just its recent creation in our solar system and that its apparent physical contradictions will quickly be "dealt with" by solar physics laws.
I don't know why Venus is different. Every planet is different in one respect or another. But the "laws" are still a bit contentious right now. There is certainly no conventional explanation (to my knowledge) for its unusual characteristics.
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'14-07-20, 09:14
Charles Chandler
Baltimore, MD
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If as the ancients say it was "born" out of Jupiter can this be reconciled in any way with reality, say its the core of Jupiter? the red spot, or the thunderbolts depicted from its plasma "fights" with earth and mars. Could gas giants expel matter? Even the bible reports the effects of a cosmic body around the exodus and a repeating 52 year orbit for a while after.
I don't know that it was "born" within human memory, but if it was, there definitely isn't any mechanical model for this — just the basic idea that there could have been a collision that produced remnants. The biggest problem with that is explaining the orbit. Had there been a collision with Jupiter, ejecta could have condensed into a planet, which could have gone into its own orbit. But that should have been a highly elliptical orbit. To get a nearly circular orbit where Venus is now would have taken two collisions — the first to split it off of Jupiter, and the second as it neared its present orbit, to redirect it into a circular path around the Sun. This is certainly not impossible. And I gave up calculating odds on astronomical events when I first realized how improbable the Earth really is. So there is no sense in ruling something out because the odds are one in a gazillion. But if you want to talk about physically possible models, you have to take such factors into account.
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'14-07-20, 09:27
Charles Chandler
Baltimore, MD
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Why would the ancients lie/fantasize about phenomena if they made it part of their religion, life and calendars?
I don't think that the ancients lied. But I'm not convinced that Venus has moved from its present orbit in human memory. I favor the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis as the event that occurred within human memory, which got deeply embedded in lore. It's possible that the YDI happened, but then successive generations retelling the story looked for the remnants of the impact that were definitely in the original story, and spotted Venus first, and later other planets, and concluded that those were the remnants. If the same story was being told all over the world, because the remnants from the YDI had been visible all over the world, then cultures all over the world would have easily made the same leap. (The original story might not have explicitly stipulated that they already knew about the Morning Star, and that the remnants that they were talking about definitely weren't that.) So everybody in the world makes the same mistake. To sort it out, we just have to look for the physical evidence of impacts within human memory.
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