Re: Possible projects for electric universe citizen scientists
* Well? Where did everyone go? Who turned out the lights? * Don't just sit there, do something or other. That's reverse psychology. I really don't want you to do something. * Don't do this: http://thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4180.
orrery
Re: Possible projects for electric universe citizen scientists
Okay, I must admit that I am bit confused about the goals that are being advocated here. Perhaps my objective was not well stated. We've seen the type of developments that are shown to be possible with programs like SETI@Home and most of us are aware of the discoveries made by Einstein@Home.
The project that I believe could be best adapted to EU purposes would be Milkyway@Home:
Milkyway@Home uses the BOINC platform to harness volunteered computing resources, creating a highly accurate three dimensional model of the Milky Way galaxy using data gathered by the Sloan Digital Sky Survey. This project enables research in both astroinformatics and computer science.
In computer science, the project is investigating different optimization methods which are resilient to the fault-prone, heterogeneous and asynchronous nature of Internet computing; such as evolutionary and genetic algorithms, as well as asynchronous newton methods. While in astroinformatics, Milkyway@Home is generating highly accurate three dimensional models of the Sagittarius stream, which provides knowledge about how the Milky Way galaxy was formed and how tidal tails are created when galaxies merge.
Except we wouldn't be making a map of the stars in the milky way. We would instead make a map of Birkeland Currents.
Lloyd
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Re: Possible projects for electric universe citizen scientists
I have access to a Tesla coil with a 6' tall secondary coil , and a ten acre site in a rural area. My initial goal might be to create plasmoids and see how big they grow and how long they live. I'll see how cleanly I can get the thing to run, and if it disturbs nearby neighbors' TV reception and farm animals. It belongs to a friend of mine with a degree in electronics. Any advice on other Tesla coil projects?
Respectfully, Dotini
Lloyd
Re: Possible projects for electric universe citizen scientists
* Here's a 3D video of the universe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJD8QqaJyws. Anything with high redshift is probably incorrectly placed in the video. The gap between the double cones is due probably to sections of the universe that could not be observed because of local interference. * Here's a 3D image of the local group of galaxies: http://www.astro.utu.fi/EG/ELG/LG3D.shtml.
orrery
Re: Possible projects for electric universe citizen scientists
Lloyd wrote: * I think the only electric currents that need to be mapped are the ones from the galactic arm to the Sun.
^^ this
Lloyd
Re: Possible projects for electric universe citizen scientists
What do you mean by "^^ this" ?
orrery
Re: Possible projects for electric universe citizen scientists
Lloyd wrote: What do you mean by "^^ this" ?
People keep posting large scale structure pictures of the Universe when I am addressing making maps of the Milky Way.
Nereid
Re: Possible projects for electric universe citizen scientists
Here's a recent exchange, in another TB thread:
Nereid wrote:
mharratsc wrote: As for watching redshift change... I dunno. Wal Thornhill suggests that redshifts in child galaxies/quasars/whatevers change in discreet steps. Would that mean one day we'd see a redshift of .23 and the next day it would be completely different? Not exactly sure... :
If that could be turned into a quantitative hypothesis, it would be readily testable; in fact, there may be enough data available to everyone (with a broadband internet connection) to test exactly such hypotheses already! I think I'll add it to the list of possible citizen science projects (well done Mike!)
The first step would be to come up with a firm, quantitative hypothesis concerning quantised changes in the redshifts of 'quasars' ejected from active galaxies (per Arp's ideas, endorsed by Thornhill) - that should be fairly easy to do.
The second step would involve scouring the literature for reports of observed redshifts of quasars, especially those from the 1960s to 1990s. Then? Well, what do you think, dear reader?
David Talbott
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No need for us to quibble on this one, Nereid, but practically speaking the first step would not be to produce a quantifiable model, but to confirm that plasma discharge events, at least under certain conditions, are susceptible to such influences as the Wolfe Effect, even producing redshift in quantized upward steps. I have a suspicion that the answer may indeed connect us to the fractal behavior of plasma, following from quantum behavior that deserves greater attention. But before I stick my neck out I'll talk with a couple of folks who could have something to say on the subject.
aristotlejones
Re: Possible projects for electric universe citizen scientists
David Talbott wrote: ...But before I stick my neck out I'll talk with a couple of folks who could have something to say on the subject.
I would like to know if Don Scott or Eric Lerner could suggest any illustrative demonstrations of plasma effects that we could do in our batcaves and post online. I'm sure they must have performed some experiments that made them sit up and think twice about the status quo and to want to investigate further.
I'm certainly willing to do this as long as it fits within my budget...i.e. I can build most of it from stuff I already own. (I did try to encourage this track in another thread many months ago)
Stay Focused,
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CharlesChandler
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I designed an experiment to test my electric tornado hypothesis. All I need is for an electrical engineer to spec out the Crofton-Walton multipliers, the disconnect and discharge systems, fuses, etc. I don't have the creds to do this myself, and I'd rather not learn how to design high-voltage circuits by trial and error! But I'll build it if I can get an engineer just to spec it.
, and a ten acre site in a rural area. My initial goal might be to create plasmoids and see how big they grow and how long they live. I'll see how cleanly I can get the thing to run, and if it disturbs nearby neighbors' TV reception and farm animals. It belongs to a friend of mine with a degree in electronics. Any advice on other Tesla coil projects?
