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junglelord
Re: Hadronic Mechanics Revolution

Nice post Lloyd
Spin domains and charge fields, along with aetheric folds are clearly represented to the trained eye.
cheers/

Lloyd
Re: Hadronic Mechanics Revolution

* Thanks, JL. You say, "Spin domains and charge fields, along with aetheric folds are clearly represented," but do you have time to explain each of these terms and exactly where they're represented and in which illustration?
* When I looked over the water molecule illustration just now in my post on the previous page from http://www.neutronstructure.org/part3.htm, I noticed that the model shows the electrons paired and each pair orbiting the oxygen nucleus and one hydrogen nucleus in a figure 8 pattern, the hydrogen nucleus being a proton. I think Santilli regards most or many chemical bonds as having such paired electrons orbiting in such a figure 8 pattern. Here's that illustration again.
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Lloyd
Re: Hadronic Mechanics Revolution

* Now I'm starting to find out about HHO, a magnecule of the atoms of water that have fuel properties.
http://www.articletrader.com/automotive/water-fueled-cars-a~
"It is indicated that the creation of the gaseous and combustible HHO from distilled water at atmospheric temperature and pressure occurs via a process structurally different than evaporation or separation, thus suggesting the existence of a new form of water, apparently introduced in this paper for the first time, with the structure (H×H)–O where "×" represents the new magnecular bond and "-" the conventional molecular bond. The transition from the conventional H–O–H species to the new (H×H)–O species is predicted by a change of the electric polarization of water caused by the electrolyzer. When H–O–H is liquid, the new species (H×H)–O can only be gaseous, thus explaining the transition of state without evaporation or separation energy. Finally, the new species (H×H)–O is predicted to be unstable and decay into H×H and O, by permitting a plausible interpretation of the anomalous constituents of the HHO gas as well as its anomalous behavior."[8]
* The instability makes it usable as fuel.

Harry Costas
Re: Hadronic Mechanics Revolution

G'day

Lloyd you have all the rights to express your opinion, but! not the right to dictate the flow of science information.

Issues on compacted matter and their dynamics.

These can be googled without my input via arXiv or via NASA ADS.

As for EM reconnection and Z-pinch dynamics similar

As for how matter breaks down to Neutrons and phase transitions similar.

How Neutrons compact and confined under extreme EM/gravitional fields is found in many papers also Wiki. This is the field that alot of research is heading to confine Neutrons and getting the ultimate energy supply.

You can also research
Chiral gauge theory
http://aps.arxiv.org/find/all/1/all:+AN ... /0/all/0/1

Condensed Matter astrophysics 2010
http://arxiv.org/find/all/1/all:+AND+20 ... /0/all/0/1

Quantum Condensate 2010
http://arxiv.org/find/all/1/all:+AND+20 ... /0/all/0/1

Photo-Disintergration
http://arxiv.org/find/all/1/OR+au:photo ... /0/all/0/1

Magnetic reconnection 2010
http://arxiv.org/find/all/1/all:+AND+20 ... /0/all/0/1

Plasma Z pinch
http://arxiv.org/find/all/1/all:+AND+Pl ... /0/all/0/1

and

Chiral Symmetry Breaking 2010
http://aps.arxiv.org/find/all/1/all:+AN ... /0/all/0/1

must add this

tokamaks and neutron production
ADS search
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-b ... &version=1

Lloyd
Re: Hadronic Mechanics Revolution

* Harry, do the owners of this forum have the right to dictate on which board your flow of "information" goes on? Why do you persist in hijacking thread topics and making them into what you want to discuss, instead of letting those who start threads choose the topic? You're free to start a topic on what you want to discuss. So please do that, rather than trying to force your stuff on everyone else.

Lloyd
Re: Hadronic Mechanics Revolution

* The following is from a 2006 paper by Santilli at http://santilli-galilei.org/Etherino-Neutrino-I-FP.pdf. Remember that hadrons are protons and electrons and their antimatter equivalents, while other particles are combinations of these.
ELECTRONS ARE MASSLESS OSCILLATIONS OF ETHER
ether appears necessary also for the characterization and propagation of the electron, due to its structure as a "pure oscillation" of the ether, namely, an oscillation of one of its points without any oscillating mass as conventionally understood.
MASS IS THE ENERGY OF HADRON OSCILLATIONS; INERTIA IS ETHER RESISTANCE
contrary to our sensory perception, matter is totally empty as a conventionally perceive*d "solid" and space is totally full as a medium, with the former being mere excitations of the latter, as suggested by the author since his high school studies [4a]. This conception was submitted to illustrate the lack of existence of the "ethereal wind" [4b] that delayed studies on the ether for at least one century, since motion of matter would merely require the transfer of the characteristic oscillations from given points of the ether to others. Mass is then characterized by the known equivalence of the energy of the characteristic oscillations, and inertia is the resistance provided by the ether against changes of motion [4a]. For additional recent views on the ether we refer interested readers to Ref. [4c].
... triplet couplings [of electrons?] inside the hadronic horizon cause very strong repulsive forces [thus preventing them], while singlet couplings produce* very strong attractive forces [5a].
ETHERINO [in the synthesis of neutrons etc]
In order to conduct quantitative studies of the above alternatives, in this paper we submit apparently for the first time the hypothesis that the synthesis of the neutron from protons and electrons occurs via the absorption either from the environment inside stars [probably actually inside the electrical Z-pinch that forms stars and planets] or from the ether of an "entity", here called etherino (meaning in Italian "little ether") and represented with the symbol "a" (from the Latin aether) having mass and charge 0, spin 1/2 and a minimum of 0.78 MeV energy.
... 5. THE ETHERINO HYPOTHESIS
As clearly shown by the preceding analysis, the synthesis of the neutron according to Rutherford
[1a] not only misses spin 1/2 as historically pointed out by Pauli [1c] and Fermi [1d], but also misses 0.78 MeV energy. Moreover, these quantities must be acquired by the proton and electron for the synthesis to exist, rather than being "released" as in Eq. (4.1), while complementary reaction (4.2) is unacceptable for the reasons indicated in the preceding section. Consequently, a central open problem in the synthesis of the neutron (as well as of hadrons at large) is the identification of "where" these quantities originate. The first evident answer is that the missing quantities originate from the environment in the interior of stars [actually stellar Z-pinches] in which the neutron is synthesized. In fact, there is no doubt that the interior of stars [stellar Z-pinches] can indeed supply spin 1/2 and (at least) 0.78 MeV energy.
... In the author['s] view, a compelling aspect supporting the etherino hypothesis is the fact that the synthesis of the neutron has the highest probability when the proton and the electron are at relative rest, while the same probability becomes essentially null when the proton and the electron have the (relative) missing energy of 0.78 MeV because, as indicated in Section 4, in that case their cross section becomes very small.
... Still another supporting argument is that the etherino hypothesis eliminates the implausible belief that massive particles carrying energy in our spacetime can traverse enormous hyperdense media without collisions, since the corresponding [and more plausible] etherino event could occur via propagation of impulses through the ether as a universal substratum. We are here referring to a possible directional [one-way] event in the ether as a medium triggered by the decay of the neutron, its propagation through the ether as a longitudinal wave, and its possible detection via the triggering of particle events currently interpreted as caused by neutrino scattering.
... the etherino is not intended to be a conventional particle, but an entity representing the transfer of the missing quantities from the environment or the ether to the neutron.
... no neutrino or etherino is released in the neutron decay, all energy being absorbed by the emitted protons and electrons.
... the etherino hypothesis may well turn out to be in strong support of the existence of neutrinos in neutron decays
[MAYBE NEUTRINOS DO EXIST AFTER ALL]
... the etherino hypothesis does not imply the necessary abandonment of the neutrino hypothesis
... the etherino hypothesis for the neutron decay, Eq. (5.4), is not necessarily in conflict with available data on neutrino experiments, because said hypothesis could provide their mere re-interpretation as a new form of communication through the ether.
... [In] hadronic mechanics, ... there is no need for the etherino to carry spin 1.... With reference to Fig. 4, once compressed inside the hadronic horizon, that is, inside the proton, in order to have an attractive bond, the electron is constrained to have its spin antiparallel to that of the proton and, in order to achieve a stable state, the electron orbital momentum is constrained to coincide with the spin 1/2 of the proton, otherwise the electron must move inside the proton and against its hyperdense medium.
LARGE MULTIPLE OF LIGHT SPEED POSSIBLE
Moreover, in the event the propagation of the latter event results to be longitudinal as expected, its speed is predicted to be a large multiple of the speed of conventional (transversal) electromagnetic waves.
CONTINUOUS CREATION OF MATTER [?]
... Note also that the continuous creation of matter is only possible for case (5.3) because, by conception, such a creation requires first the transfer of energy from the ether to our spacetime, here represented with the etherino hypothesis on the neutron synthesis, Eq. (5.1), and then the permanence in our spacetime of the acquired energy, here represented with Eq. (5.3).

junglelord
Re: Hadronic Mechanics Revolution

The failure of the Standard Model rests in its wrong assumptions. Physicists assume that all matter is solid and physical, and therefore particles that make up other particles must necessarily be smaller, solid, physical particles.

They believe this despite clear evidence that the electron is cloud-like in its structure. Physicists even have to quantify the structure of the electron in terms of probability functions, and actually believe the electron is a crap shot.

The Standard Model does not allow for the concept of different orders of reality, which lead from physical matter to non-material existence. In the end, however, that is exactly what physicists will have to admit.

The Aether Physics Model uses quantum dimensional analysis to induce that primary angular momentum is actually a state of matter, or more accurately, the transition state of matter as it evolves from non-material structure to physical structure.

The Aether Physics Model also shows that mass is a property, not a physical thing. Mass is a property of matter, just as are the properties of length, frequency, and charge.

MrAmsterdam
Re: Hadronic Mechanics Revolution

Question. How would you proof that any of the mathematical theories/models can be applied in/on reality. How could you proof your theory is correctly describing the following natural phenomena?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vortex_tube
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peltier_ef ... ier_effect

The vortex tube, also known as the Ranque-Hilsch vortex tube, is a mechanical device that separates a compressed gas into hot and cold streams. It has no moving parts.
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This is somewhat analogous to a Peltier effect device, which uses electrical pressure (voltage) to move heat to one side of a dissimilar metal junction, causing the other side to grow cold.
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An interesting consequence of this effect is that the direction of heat transfer is controlled by the polarity of the current; reversing the polarity will change the direction of transfer and thus the sign of the heat absorbed/evolved.

A Peltier cooler/heater or thermoelectric heat pump is a solid-state active heat pump which transfers heat from one side of the device to the other. Peltier cooling is also called thermo-electric cooling (TEC).

Can Hadronic mechanics predict and explain such phenomena?

Corpuscles
Re: Hadronic Mechanics Revolution

Lloyd

Some really interesting reading there. Thanks

JL

As often the case... the post ^ NAILED IT..and is brilliant!!!!.. (and also clear, plain & succinct ;) )

There is no such thing as a "particle (corpuscle) of matter". By very definition quanta is an electric phenomenon.
Our very interesting friend Miles has reduced "it" to photon... but still thinks it is a particle. It's compressed aether!

Time for all to catch on and declare that emperor Albert has no clothes!
But whether he really did come up with E=mc^2 himself (lets no go there)... that in itself says no bloody particle at all!

Mr A

The Vortex tube is very interesting phenomenon. Spin.. hot and cold spin in opposite directions..just like the base MAGNETIC substance aether...which controls and IS all.

Jarvamundo
Re: Hadronic Mechanics Revolution

Lloyd wrote:
* Now I'm starting to find out about HHO, a magnecule of the atoms of water that have fuel properties.
http://www.articletrader.com/automotive/water-fueled-cars-a~
"It is indicated that the creation of the gaseous and combustible HHO from distilled water at atmospheric temperature and pressure occurs via a process structurally different than evaporation or separation, thus suggesting the existence of a new form of water, apparently introduced in this paper for the first time, with the structure (H×H)–O where "×" represents the new magnecular bond and "-" the conventional molecular bond. The transition from the conventional H–O–H species to the new (H×H)–O species is predicted by a change of the electric polarization of water caused by the electrolyzer. When H–O–H is liquid, the new species (H×H)–O can only be gaseous, thus explaining the transition of state without evaporation or separation energy. Finally, the new species (H×H)–O is predicted to be unstable and decay into H×H and O, by permitting a plausible interpretation of the anomalous constituents of the HHO gas as well as its anomalous behavior."[8]
* The instability makes it usable as fuel.
Describing browns gas yeah? Some very interesting properties indeed.

"you can hold the tip of the torch with your fingers, wave the torch across your arm without burning it, and use that same torch to melt tungsten, which requires a temperature of 6192 °F. Brown's gas has also been used to significantly reduce radioactivity. "

Chris Eckman's paper, 'Plasma Orbital Expansion of the Electrons in Water'
http://www.worldsci.org/pdf/abstracts/a ... s_5440.pdf

"Brown's Gas boasts a plethora of unusual characteristics that defy current chemistry. It has a cool flame of about 130 degrees, yet melts steel, brick and many other materials. Confusingly research both confirms and rebuffs many claims about it, leading to a smorgasbord of theories today seeking to explain its unusual properties. One possible theory, currently gaining support even from establishment science, depicts "plasma orbital expansion of the electron in a water molecule". In this process, unlike electrolysis, the water molecule "bends" into a linear, dipole-free geometry. This linear water molecule expands to gain electrons in the d sub-shell, and these extra electrons produce different effects on different target materials. Electrons that scatter at point of contact produce heat based upon electrical conductivity, density and thermal capacity of the material. It will also show why Rydberg clusters are a part of browns gas and how the linear water molecule needs these clusters to survive. This paper will explain this new theory and why it is gaining popularity among scientist in academia. "

Lloyd
Re: Hadronic Mechanics Revolution

ANTIMATTER
* There's promising info on these two sites, discussing antimatter somewhat.
http://www.santilli-foundation.org/santilli-scientific-disc~
* See illustration of proton-antiproton fireball here: http://www.santilli-foundation.org/images/BE1.gif.
Figure 5.8: A schematic view of the Bose-Einstein correlation originating in proton-antiproton annihilations. The top view depicts the event as permitted by quantum mechanics, that is, with the necessary abstraction of protons and antiprotons as massive points, in which case no correlation is conceptually or technically possible (see the text). The lower views depict the event as described by the covering hadronic mechanics, according to which the proton and the antiproton are represented with their actual, extended, non-spherical and deformable shape. The particles first coalesce, then they annihilate and form the so-called "fireball," namely, a spheroid ellipsoid whose prolate character depends on the energy of the particles. The fireball then decays into numerous unstable hadrons whose final product is given by correlated mesons released in all space directions.
* On this second site, a google book, I don't understand the meaning of antiparticles moving backward in time, but it's an interesting idea, if it has experimental confirmation somehow.
http://books.google.com/books?id=xJwUB- ... &q&f=false
Despite the above identities, energy and time are positive-definite for the photon, while they are negative-definite for the isodual photon. As we shall see, the latter property implies that photons are attracted by the gravitational field of matter while isodual photons are repelled, thus providing a physically detectable difference.
Additional differences between light emitted by matter and that emitted by antimatter, such as those pertaining to parity and other discrete symmetries, require additional study.

2.2.11 Electrons and their Isoduals
The next truly elementary particles and antiparticles are the electron e- and its antiparticle, the positron e+ or the isodual electron e-^d. The differences between the "positron" and the "isodual electron" should be kept in mind. In fact, the former has positive rest energy and move[s] forward in time, while the latter has negative rest energy and moves backward in time.

Lloyd
Re: Hadronic Mechanics Revolution

ELECTRON = PHOTON?
* On this webpage, http://www.i-b-r.org/Rutherford_Santilli_neutron.htm, here's a quote.
Santilli suggests to consider also the natural characteristic frequency of the electron in vacuum as a potential resonating photon
* Is it saying that an electron in vacuum is a photon? Or is just the frequency of the electron a photon? If so, isn't the frequency simply a characteristic of the electron?
MAKING NUCLEAR WASTE SAFE
* That is part of a discussion of stimulating neutron decay for the purpose of eliminating radioactivity of nuclear waste, rendering it harmless. This site, http://www.nuclearwasterecycling.com, says major scientists who tried to have a conference in the U.S. or Europe in 2000 received death threats, so they stopped doing research at that time. Anyway, here are some details from the discussion.
Additionally, the resonating frequency has to be adjusted for nuclear binding forces solely of proved potential origin [24].
The mechanism for stimulated decay (100) is elementary. The resonating photon hitting a nucleus is expected to excite the isoelectron inside a neutron irrespective of whether the photon penetrates or not inside the neutron. Once excited, there is no possibility for the isoelectron other than that of leaving the neutron structure, thus causing its stimulated decay [As the electron leaves the neutron, the neutron becomes a proton].
This is due to the fact that hadronic mechanics predicts one and only one energy level for the proton and the electron in conditions of total mutual immersion, the neutron [The electron is immersed in the proton]. The range of hadronic mechanics is essentially given by the radius of the neutron (1 fm). Once excited, the isoelectron has no other possibility than that of exiting [leaving] the proton and reassuming its conventional quantum features when moving in vacuum.
Numerous additional triggers are predicted by hadronic mechanics. Another one disclosed by Santilli [24] is the use of photons with a wavelength equal to the neutron size. In this case, we have the excitation of the neutron as a whole, rather than the isoelectron in its interior, but the predicted result is always the stimulated decay [The neutron decays into a proton].

junglelord
Re: Hadronic Mechanics Revolution

Yes the electron and the photon are the same thing.
I think they are and first had that thought in electronic college.
Then they said that they exchange energy....I say they exchange spin, but are the same thing as they have the same spin and one can become the other, as they do, over and over....so yes a photon is an electron.

Lloyd
Re: Hadronic Mechanics Revolution

Advanced Cutting and Welding Technology and Fuel
* It seems I neglected to post this relevant link earlier, so here it is: the gas Santilli invented that cuts and welds with great versatility and is available to the public: http://www.magnegas.com.
* I just noticed that this video http://ir.stockpr.com/magnegas/media-center/view/33/corpora~ says magnegas fuel for cars, produced from recycled liquid waste etc, is already available for fleet owners [fleets of vehicles, I think], municipalities and investors, though not yet for regular consumers. So what are we waiting for? We can get a fleet owner, or municipality, to get it; can't we?

Lloyd
Re: Hadronic Mechanics Revolution

Sallyliao said: Looks like EM is finally starting to intrude upon the theoretical domain of quantum physics.
* I think Hadronic Mechanics replaces Quantum Mechanics.
* But I also like Kanarev's findings, as at http://thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&amp~.

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